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TonyAlmighty Consigliere*


Post #: 1744 Age: 31 Location: Westcheddar, NY Status: "Amateurs talk strategy. PROFESSIONALS talk logistics."
 | Subject: Official NBA thread Tue Oct 28, 2008 2:34 pm | |
| The season starts this week lads...  |
|  | | JayGood Capofamiglia*


Post #: 2923 Age: 34 Location: Dolla$,TX Status: Mvmt Mogul
 | Subject: Re: Official NBA thread Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:59 pm | |
|  "Let the games...begin." ~Goodz~_________________ "That's exactly what you have... thanks, but no thanks. Why would I want to be apart of a "CLAN", when I'm involved in a Network? This is The Movement...." |
|  | | prboi400 I AM The Mvmt


Post #: 839 Age: 21 Location: Fort Lauderdale, Florida Status: Chillin
 | Subject: Re: Official NBA thread Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:50 pm | |
| Damn time goes by fast I wonder what da HEAT gonna be lookin like this year. |
|  | | TonyAlmighty Consigliere*


Post #: 1744 Age: 31 Location: Westcheddar, NY Status: "Amateurs talk strategy. PROFESSIONALS talk logistics."
 | Subject: Re: Official NBA thread Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:54 am | |
| So who ya'll boys rolling with this season?? My Eastern Conference pic is the C's again, my lock is Cleveland and my sleeper is Orlando. My Western Conference pic is the Fakers again, my lock is the Spurs (NEVER bet against these boys) and my sleeper is Houston (God willing Artest can help Mac get his first series win).  "He's ALRIGHT, but he's not REAL. MJ's that deal, with six rings in the field..." -Jay-Z |
|  | | TonyAlmighty Consigliere*


Post #: 1744 Age: 31 Location: Westcheddar, NY Status: "Amateurs talk strategy. PROFESSIONALS talk logistics."
 | Subject: Re: Official NBA thread Wed Oct 29, 2008 1:35 pm | |
| It's gonna be interesting this year, the Heat and Fakers probably are gonna swap Marion for Odom. But at least one of them will be moved, including Vince. But the Heat dont have a point guard or center so I dont know. I dont watch college sports much, so I dont know if that Beasley boy is gonna get it done. But I DO know who will...  "Sure, Bynum and Durant are overrated..." "WHOOPS!!!"  ("I'll kill EVERYBODY up IN this muthafucka...")  "What up ma?"  "You mad doggie???" |
|  | | TonyAlmighty Consigliere*


Post #: 1744 Age: 31 Location: Westcheddar, NY Status: "Amateurs talk strategy. PROFESSIONALS talk logistics."
 | Subject: Re: Official NBA thread Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:36 am | |
| They're close to trading AI for Chauncey, Dice and a scrub!!!  This makes sense for both sides. The Nuggets have too much scoring and not enough of a total offense, Chauncey will bring leadership and championship experience to Denver. I guess they felt that Rodney Stuckey did a great job filling in for Chauncey last year in the playoffs while he was hurt. The Pistons have underacheived the past few years, they were the most complete team in the L and theyre not getting any younger and want to make one more run before they go into rebuild mode. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3679931 |
|  | | TonyAlmighty Consigliere*


Post #: 1744 Age: 31 Location: Westcheddar, NY Status: "Amateurs talk strategy. PROFESSIONALS talk logistics."
 | Subject: Re: Official NBA thread Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:11 pm | |
| All-Star returns so far, my man Dwight leading all players. It's crazy because Joe Johnson has been putting up great numbers and doesn't get enough credit for bringing Atlanta back to the cusp of being taken seriously again. Gasol and Brand (before this year) have BEEN putting up All-Star numbers for years and never make it as they should as well.
I havent been paying much attention to Yi this year and maybe I should have. I don't watch college sports anymore, but Beasley and Rose are the real deal. But I followed my man Oden his year though, him and Bynum are the future.
Eastern Conference Forwards: LeBron James (Clev) 1,940,162; Kevin Garnett (Bos) 1,375,814; Yi Jianlian (NJ) 1,216,348; Chris Bosh (Tor) 751,927; Paul Pierce (Bos) 486,656; Hedo Turkoglu (Orl) 366,174; Shawn Marion (Mia) 264,888; Danny Granger (Ind) 199,200; Josh Smith (Atl) 163,145; Michael Beasley (Mia) 157,286; Tayshaun Prince (Det) 144,337.
Guards: Dwyane Wade (Mia) 1,818,717; Allen Iverson (Det) 1,278,600; Vince Carter (NJ) 856,498; Ray Allen (Bos) 552,094; Devin Harris (NJ) 474,637; Gilbert Arenas (Wash) 403,577; Luke Ridnour (Mil) 379,806; Derrick Rose (Chi) 293,483; Jose Calderon (Tor) 274,509; Joe Johnson (Atl) 236,993; Jameer Nelson (Orl) 227,226.
Centers: Dwight Howard (Orl) 2,102,368; Samuel Dalembert (Phi) 257,527; Rasheed Wallace (Det) 255,950; Jermaine O'Neal (Tor) 224,583; Andrew Bogut (Mil) 198,811; Al Horford (Atl) 191,105; Brendan Haywood (Wash) 178,868; Ben Wallace (Clev) 159,132; Emeka Okafor (Char) 133,501; Zyrdrunas Ilgauskas (Cle) 122,607; Kendrick Perkins (Bos) 85,855.
Western Conference Forwards: Tim Duncan (SA) 1,454,918; Carmelo Anthony (Den) 905,121; Amare Stoudemire (Pho) 894,690; Ron Artest (Hou) 890,992; Dirk Nowitzki (Dal) 837,482; Pau Gasol (LAL) 618,943; Bruce Bowen (SA) 509,593; Shane Battier (Hou) 482,724; Luis Scola (Hou) 281,372; Josh Howard (Dal) 255,698; LaMarcus Aldridge (Por) 212,651.
Guards: Kobe Bryant (LAL) 1,903,798; Tracy McGrady (Hou) 1,216,224; Chris Paul (NO) 1,059,161; Manu Ginobili (SA) 669,837; Tony Parker (SA) 614,939; Jamal Crawford (GS) 462,039; Steve Nash (Pho) 441,746; Jason Kidd (Dal) 381,906; Rafer Alston (Hou) 372,130; Jason Terry (Dal) 323,279; Brandon Roy (Por) 267,053.
Centers: Yao Ming (Hou) 1,758,499; Shaquille O'Neal (Pho) 1,006,383; Andrew Bynum (LAL) 356,280; Mehmet Okur (Utah) 292,845; Greg Oden (Por) 195,552; Andris Biedrins (GS) 170,732; Tyson Chandler (NO) 128,086; Al Jefferson (Minn) 121,944; Nick Collison (OKC) 105,534; Marcus Camby (LAC) 74,638; Chris Kaman (LAC) 27,112. |
|  | | JayGood Capofamiglia*


Post #: 2923 Age: 34 Location: Dolla$,TX Status: Mvmt Mogul
 | Subject: Re: Official NBA thread Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:07 am | |
| "I AM HE!!!"~Goodz~_________________ "That's exactly what you have... thanks, but no thanks. Why would I want to be apart of a "CLAN", when I'm involved in a Network? This is The Movement...." |
|  | | TonyAlmighty Consigliere*


Post #: 1744 Age: 31 Location: Westcheddar, NY Status: "Amateurs talk strategy. PROFESSIONALS talk logistics."
 | Subject: Re: Official NBA thread Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:09 am | |
|  EASY my dude, EASY, your going WAAAAY to fast over there "Air Texas". Bronbron is RIGHT on Kobe's new signatures for the world's best...  ...now Kobe is still THE killer, but until he wins without Shaq...  ...and God forbid Bron win's before he comes to the Knicks in '10...  ...he'll fall JUST shy of fulfilling the legacy of his Airness. |
|  | | JayGood Capofamiglia*


Post #: 2923 Age: 34 Location: Dolla$,TX Status: Mvmt Mogul
 | |  | | TonyAlmighty Consigliere*


Post #: 1744 Age: 31 Location: Westcheddar, NY Status: "Amateurs talk strategy. PROFESSIONALS talk logistics."
 | Subject: Re: Official NBA thread Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:20 pm | |
| | Quote: | | NO ONE will fulfill the legacy of his "Airness"...silly of you even thinking or believing that. |
OF COURSE NOT! Maybe you misunderstood me, I mean in regards to Kobe living up to HIS expectations. When the Fakers had they're dynasty, the league was different than it was today. They had no real competition outside maybe two squads and they've changed a few rules since then. Shaq cemented HIS legacy, Kobe needs to do the same.
| Quote: | | but Bron Bron & Garnett, said it best....."He's the best player in the league." |
 Like I said he has ALL the weapons at his disposal, the Fakers are stacked from top to bottom. He's become a leader and finally trusted his squad and bought into the Zenmasters teachings. Kobe better be ready, because he owes a lot of people. He owe’s me, he owes you, he owes the whole world. But Kobe better win something, because he owe’s a lot of people. He goes a lot Good…
| Quote: | | Do like them and respect greatness, youngsta'... |
Last time I checked you were like 5 minutes older than me, cool out. I been doing this since '80 my dude. |
|  | | JayGood Capofamiglia*


Post #: 2923 Age: 34 Location: Dolla$,TX Status: Mvmt Mogul
 | Subject: Re: Official NBA thread Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:37 pm | |
| | TonyAlmighty wrote: | OF COURSE NOT! Maybe you misunderstood me, I mean in regards to Kobe living up to HIS expectations. When the Fakers had they're dynasty, the league was different than it was today. They had no real competition outside maybe two squads and they've changed a few rules since then. Shaq cemented HIS legacy, Kobe needs to do the same.
Please show me something where he said "he has expectations to be better than Jordan?" Let's not get idolizing twisted with the perception of trying to be better than.
Like I said he has ALL the weapons at his disposal, the Fakers are stacked from top to bottom. He's become a leader and finally trusted his squad and bought into the Zenmasters teachings. Kobe better be ready, because he owes a lot of people. He owe’s me, he owes you, he owes the whole world. But Kobe better win something, because he owe’s a lot of people. He goes a lot Good…
LMAO @ "ALL the weapons at his disposal"
With the exception of Gasol's only playoff appearance...What other All-Stars or experience do the Lakers have, compared to that of the Spurs, Celtics, Pistons, Suns & Hornets?
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~Goodz~_________________ "That's exactly what you have... thanks, but no thanks. Why would I want to be apart of a "CLAN", when I'm involved in a Network? This is The Movement...." |
|  | | TonyAlmighty Consigliere*


Post #: 1744 Age: 31 Location: Westcheddar, NY Status: "Amateurs talk strategy. PROFESSIONALS talk logistics."
 | Subject: Re: Official NBA thread Tue Jan 20, 2009 1:41 pm | |
| | Quote: | | Please show me something where he said "he has expectations to be better than Jordan?" Let's not get idolizing twisted with the perception of trying to be better than. |
Not being better than Mike per se, that's an oxymoron. I meant if he's gonna be the best right now and THE killer, then he needs another ring. Point black, period, end of story. Shaq did what he had to do and now Kobe needs to show me something. 81 points is incredible, but how about 16 wins in the playoffs without Diesel???
| Quote: | LMAO @ "ALL the weapons at his disposal" With the exception of Gasol's only playoff appearance...What other All-Stars or experience do the Lakers have, compared to that of the Spurs, Celtics, Pistons, Suns & Hornets? |
It's not about having a team full of All-Stars, it's about having a solid cast that's gonna get it done. You have his man Fish at the point, a solid vet who ran the triangle during the championship years. You got Gasol who's been putting up All-Star numbers for years, but was stranded in Memphis. He was the last piece they needed to be taken seriously for a trophy.
You got young Bynum who's the big man of the future, that's why Jerry Buss held onto the boy. Even Kobe didn't know what the boy was capable of. Then you got Odom who despite never having enough to be Kobe’s #2, is one of the most reliable forwards in the game and does what’s needed. Then Vujacic, Luke and Ariza get their hands dirty to round things out. This is the best squad Kobe’s had and ya’ll boys got there last year and are on top again, so let’s not make excuses for your boyfriend, MAN-UP!  |
|  | | JayGood Capofamiglia*


Post #: 2923 Age: 34 Location: Dolla$,TX Status: Mvmt Mogul
 | Subject: Re: Official NBA thread Tue Jan 20, 2009 2:29 pm | |
| | TonyAlmighty wrote: | | Quote: | | Please show me something where he said "he has expectations to be better than Jordan?" Let's not get idolizing twisted with the perception of trying to be better than. |
Not being better than Mike per se, that's an oxymoron. I meant if he's gonna be the best right now and THE killer, then he needs another ring. Point black, period, end of story. Shaq did what he had to do and now Kobe needs to show me something. 81 points is incredible, but how about 16 wins in the playoffs without Diesel???
| Quote: | LMAO @ "ALL the weapons at his disposal" With the exception of Gasol's only playoff appearance...What other All-Stars or experience do the Lakers have, compared to that of the Spurs, Celtics, Pistons, Suns & Hornets? |
It's not about having a team full of All-Stars, it's about having a solid cast that's gonna get it done. You have his man Fish at the point, a solid vet who ran the triangle during the championship years. You got Gasol who's been putting up All-Star numbers for years, but was stranded in Memphis. He was the last piece they needed to be taken seriously for a trophy.
You got young Bynum who's the big man of the future, that's why Jerry Buss held onto the boy. Even Kobe didn't know what the boy was capable of. Then you got Odom who despite never having enough to be Kobe’s #2, is one of the most reliable forwards in the game and does what’s needed. Then Vujacic, Luke and Ariza get their hands dirty to round things out. This is the best squad Kobe’s had and ya’ll boys got there last year and are on top again, so let’s not make excuses for your boyfriend, MAN-UP!  |
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Far from making excuses...all I'm saying is don't come with speculation, or what you "perceive"...give me facts if you're making statements such as "I mean in regards to Kobe living up to HIS expectations." I see you failed to come up with factual evidence where he's said this also. Other wise...when you say things such as that, you come off as a hater.
I stated "All-Star" talent b/c YOU said he had "ALL the weapons at his disposal" opposed to the teams I named as examples. You can scream Fisher all you want, but he's toward the end of his career and is not even a top 5 PG in the game right now. I'll give you Gasol as being solid...but the other folks you mentioned as "Weapons" haven't proved anything.....since you dispell what Bean has proved or yet to prove. Think before you talk next time, b/c you made no sense at all with that comment naming a list of guys that haven't proved anything. Odom is a JAG..."Just a Guy" opposed to a STUD...he's not even in the elite of his position.
When you talk to me...think twice, know your facts, and you better have supporting details. I thought you would have learned this by now.
As for the Shaq comments...Like I've always told you, Shaq only has succeeded when he has a reliable counterpart. My question to you is this....If Shaq was so bad and Kobe needed him, answer this for me. They both got to L.A. the same year...in 96. Bean didn't start his first 3 years, due to sharing time and playing behind Eddie Jones. Why didn't Shaq win a title then, for those 3 years? Why did it take Shaq so long to win a title in L.A. until Bean's first complete season as a starter? That's kinda odd isn't it? But 24 needed 34 to win titles and be successful...."Riiiiight"
This dispells the theory of Shaq wins titles where ever he goes (Kinda like last year pointing at a ring finger to the Phoenix crowd when he was traded)...b/c for 3 years he was dormant in L.A., until a certain somebody started starting and playing more. So yeah...Kobe hasn't won anything in L.A. without Shaq....and neither did Shaq his first 3 years in L.A. when it was "his" squad.
If you come to me to...come to me with facts....not opinions and speculation.
~Goodz~_________________ "That's exactly what you have... thanks, but no thanks. Why would I want to be apart of a "CLAN", when I'm involved in a Network? This is The Movement...." |
|  | | TonyAlmighty Consigliere*


Post #: 1744 Age: 31 Location: Westcheddar, NY Status: "Amateurs talk strategy. PROFESSIONALS talk logistics."
 | Subject: Re: Official NBA thread Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:44 am | |
| FACT: Kobe NEEDS to win another ring or else his legacy won’t be QUITE the same.Now I’m not saying Kobe verbally said this, I’m just giving you the general consensus in the basketball world. Maybe in including that picture of Mike, you misinterpreted me. Mike never won without Scottie, now say if Scottie won one with the Bulls or the Rockets, Mike would have been under pressure to win another without Scottie or else Mike’s legacy would be lessened JUST a tiny notch. It sounds crazy, but right or wrong it would. Now what you’re saying about EJ is true, but that’s bridge under that water. Shaq won without Kobe with less of a team in an more competitive league. PERIOD. FACT: The Fakers are better than your giving them credit for.Like I said, Gasol has been an All-Star the last few years, he had the bad luck of being stranded in Memphis with a lopsided Western Conference, had he been in the East, he would have a few under his belt (Brand too). Gasol is a lil better than solid, he’s one of the best forwards in the game. Fisher may not be in his prime, but remember he ran the show for all the rings, knows the complicated triangle well and always knows his role. I got pissed when he went to Golden State in the first place, but he had the opportunity to finally eat off his three rings and I don’t blame him. It’s no coincidence they went back to the Finals with him being back. Odom isn’t JUST a guy, he may not has the demeanor to be a Robin, but he’s doesn’t what’s needed in a given situation. So no, he isn’t a JAG. Kobe has not one but TWO great big men at his disposal. FACT: ALL Championship teams have at least a One-Two Punch.Shaq never one without a good guard, NO SHIT. That’s the nature of the modern NBA, two superstars and some great role players can get you a championship. He may not be getting it done in Phoenix, WHOOPTY FUCKING DO, have you forgotten when he took a huge shit all over Texas and snatched the ring right out yall's hand not too long ago?! And remember he got to the Finals with Penny, don’t overlook that either. Shaq has taken his legacy way further than Kobe, don’t try to water that down. FACT: The Fakers time is now.Despite your finger pointing, Kobe is in his prime with the right squad at the right time. The Spurs are getting old and may be done, the upstart Hornets may not be ready, the Suns time is almost up and the Rockets can’t stay healthy. So that leaves the East where you got the CURRENT champs and the upstart Magic. Now the only mysteries are the Pistons and Cavs. Can AI really lead these guys back to the Finals, I’m really not sure, like the Suns and Mavs, the Pistons made a blockbuster trade to shake things up because the it’s almost rebuilding time. Now it worked last time when they got Sheed, but they don’t have Ben and Chauncey now, but it’s definitely possible with the Answer. And finally to the Cavs, can the OTHER Chosen One get a ring, well the Cavs are good enough, but I still think they’re missing ONE more piece, I think they still need an upgrade at the 1 and/or 4. They need to get another point so they can move Mo to off guard so he can concentrate at what he’s best at, scoring. I understand you have selective vision and hearing so I laid everything out for you real nice. The Fakers should be able to win a ring this season or next. Play “Jay Madden” over there with the NFL, but this here is the NBA my dude. BE CLEAR when you talk hoops with Tony, don’t bite the hand that feeds you dunn-dunn.  |
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